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« Reply #30 on: Feb 19th, 2014, 10:12pm »

What do you think of this idea Emiko?
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« Reply #31 on: Feb 20th, 2014, 9:56pm »

I can't say I'm too fond of the scaling expectations idea, because that's fading dangerously close to "English Class" and away from "fun". People hone their writing skills differently and become better at different times, especially when you bring age differences in the picture. I was 14 when I began roleplaying in this community, and I'm almost ashamed to look at my posts from about my first two years here they were so bad. When this first came up, I also mentioned the fact that some of us roleplay from phones, and it'd just be a nightmare to be expected to post 2 or more staff approved posts 90% of the time.

I also agree with Crimson with the writing of the month idea. People would be extremely eager to win, then they'd just get crushed and give up first time they lose. Not to mention the strain it'd put on the moderators every month.
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« Reply #32 on: Feb 20th, 2014, 10:10pm »

That actually gave me an idea Pajamas. What if, with the post count reset, we set up other info/ranking items.

One is set up to measure and give a rank between the 1-line writers to the full triple paragraph ones. Another would be an icon that shows their main form of writting here on the forum. Be it on Tablets, phones or the good old lap/desk top computers.
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« Reply #33 on: Feb 20th, 2014, 10:20pm »

Then people would say they posted on mobile devices to get out of posting two full paragraphs. (Another thing, two paragraphs can technically be two sentences. That always bugged me in English class.)

I just think the system is too flawed, and too annoying to deal with to even be considered. You can be the worst writer on Earth and still attain tier 5... without improving in the slightest.
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« Reply #34 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 08:51am »

I often post on my phone and I do 2 or more paragraphs. I don't think that's a valid excuse. But yeah. That's just me. Also what would you do then pajamas? what Idea's have you got?
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« Reply #35 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 2:08pm »

Wow, look at the "Just a Snake" rp for a prime example of the issue. I think the TC may feel put-off from the forum...
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« Reply #36 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 3:17pm »

Yeah "Just a Snake" goes way too fast. I switch from mobile to computer a lot when I Rp but I agree with you hypnosisbliss.
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« Reply #37 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 3:22pm »

I don't have the time to write out an elaborate post at this moment... I'll try to do that later. I will though try to touch on some of the things that's been talked about indirectly as best as I can with what little time I do have.

First off, I'm not too sure about including an RPer of the week/month. The goal of this project is to bring up the quality of role playing without establishing any form of elitism in the process. I know this is going to be virtually impossible to do with any plan, but I'm concerned this particular idea would do more to hurt others than help them...

With that said, I have had a new idea pop in my head recently. A long time ago, I use to have RP contests on my old RP board for members. The contests were meant to just be for entertainment, but I have thought about potentially reviving contests and bringing them here if there is enough support for it.

What I'd have in mind is once or twice a year, members would be given the opportunity to participate in a voluntary contest to test their skills in role playing. I don't have a list of rules yet, or how the judging would proceed, but winners could receive something which again I'm not sure as to what yet... Annual, or semi-annual RP contests could be something we included. It would depend on the support levels though.

Backing up slightly to address other potential problems... I've looked through the admin functions and to my knowledge, there is no way to reset post counts without outright starting a new account. So, if we were to initiate Crimson's plan, it would have to be phased in much like he proposed we do anyway.

Speaking of Crimson's plan, I've had a long debate with him about his idea already. It's one I can partially support, but my concerns lay in the amount of time it would take to enforce it as well as the potential unintended consequences of constricting the entertainment value of role playing. I'm not saying I'm against it completely, but I do have some concerns which I have discussed at length before.

As for trying to work in this plan around mobile devices such as phones or ipads... Whatever system we include will have to consider other forms of technologies besides computers. Fact is, people are using other devices to role play with and that may hinder the amount some people could post with. We'd have to look at a plan that is comprehensive enough to handle all electronic devices as best as we can...

I realize in my short post, I may hot have touched on everything, but I just wanted to touch on the main things as quickly as I could. I'll try to write out something more elaborate when I get a tad bit more time. I apologize for the rather quick and abrupt post, but I wanted to throw my thoughts out regarding what's been said thus far.
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« Reply #38 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 3:47pm »

Just to clarify, Emiko, the idea wasn't rper of the month. It was story/rp of the month. But if you want to do a yearly contest I'm all for it. grin
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« Reply #39 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 4:26pm »

on Feb 21st, 2014, 2:08pm, Soulslave wrote:
Wow, look at the "Just a Snake" rp for a prime example of the issue. I think the TC may feel put-off from the forum...


That's actually ash555 trying to bypass his ban. His RPing was so bad I banned him for spamming years ago. Thanks for pointing that out to me as I would not have noticed otherwise. I brought this to Emiko's attention.

@Emiko - I strongly disagree with creating different standards for different devices simply on the ground that if we did, it could be easily abused. The idea here is to improve RP quality. Let's not hand lazy RPers the tool to continue what they're doing on a silver platter. The simple fact of the matter is that no member can really prove what their primary device is.

As for resetting post counts, you do have the tools to do that, but it's on a per-user basis. If you really wanted to go down this path, perhaps you could make it optional and that people have to request it. Do you need me to teach you how to modify a user's post count?
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« Reply #40 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 4:50pm »

I don't recommend resetting the post counts for a different reason: The search function is pretty useless when it shows a user having 0 posts even when prior ones were made.
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« Reply #41 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 4:55pm »

Let me clarify: I don't think it's a good idea, either. I am simply saying that it's possible.

Also, Emiko: I think contests might cause the same issues as trying to pick an RP-of-the-month. Too many chances for crushed spirits.

Also: When I say 1 paragraph = 4+ sentences, I don't really mean a single paragraph containing at least 4 sentences. I really just mean 4 sentences, even if they are all separate paragraphs (which is easy to do when you have dialogue between multiple characters). In other words, I created an arbitrary unit equaling 4 sentences and I called it a paragraph. In hindsight what I wrote wasn't the best wording.

My intent is that the expectation for post length doubles each time. 1 to 2 to 4 to 8 sentences.
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« Reply #42 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 9:42pm »

I just kinda skimmed everything (sorry, it's nearly midnight here and I don't feel like reading all of that right this exact second. XD), but I feel like throwing my two-cents in just for the heck of it.

I've seen other places have users self-identify their writing style with the following categories, and they often post up a sample or two of their work somewhere that potential roleplay partners can check them out. ((Lit here means Literature))

Lazy-Lit
- Writes very few sentences per post, usually not exceeding over a paragraph
- Usually under 500 characters (edit: actually I was being nice... a more appropriate number would be that these posts are usually under 250 characters. Let's be honest here. We all know at least one person like this. XD)
- Has no qualms about using chatspeak
- Doesn't really pay attention to proper grammar, punctuation, spell checking their words, etc.
- Tends to be looking for something very fast paced with a partner who doesn't care about long-winded descriptions
- Not very detailed at all
- Prefers short-term roleplays over long-term ones
- Easily capable of spurting out lots of posts in a short amount of time

Semi-Lit
- Tends to write only a few sentences per post, perhaps a paragraph or two
- Averages between 500-1000 characters
- Not very detailed
- Pays some attention to grammar and punctuation
- Usually tends to be fast paces and focuses more on quantity of posts compared to writing quality
- Doesn't usually mind either short-term or long-term roleplays
- Usually posts a lot in a short amount of time

Lit
- Tries to write an average of 2 - 5 well thought-out paragraphs per post (depending on how the roleplay is going)
- Averages anywhere between 500 - 1500 characters
- Fairly - moderately detailed with their descriptions and stories and plots
- Pays attention to using proper spelling, grammar, etc.
- Tends to enjoy more plot-heavy roleplays
- Pays attention to detail
- Usually focuses more on quality vs. quanity
- Usually prefers long-term roleplays
- Tends to reply maybe 1 - 5 times a day (depends a lot on the roleplay and the partner and such), but sometimes it might take them a while to reply

Advanced Lit
- Tends to write A LOT! 5+ Paragraphs is not a problem for them
- Going over 2000 or 3000 characters per post is not at all an issue.
- Typically a "Grammar Nazi" and expects their partners to be as well
- Very, very, very detailed oriented
- Likes plot. Lots of plot. Lots and lots of plot.
- Focuses much more on quality vs. quantity of their posts
- Prefers long-term roleplays to short-term roleplays
- Sometimes takes them a long time to reply. Days or even weeks between replies isn't out of the ordinary.

Mirror Roleplayers
- Have the potential to be any of the above (usually they come from the lit or advanced lit category), but they typically follow the styles and patterns that their roleplaying partners set down first.



Perhaps, if it was possible, everyone could list what kind of roleplayer they tend to be, give a sample of their work, and then list what kind of roleplay partner they're looking for somewhere... maybe in their profile? Or maybe a thread of Writing Samples could be set up somewhere?

And if you'd like, I can provide roleplay samples for each one of these categories. ^_^
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« Reply #43 on: Feb 21st, 2014, 9:52pm »

on Feb 21st, 2014, 9:42pm, Minibobini wrote:
Perhaps, if it was possible, everyone could list what kind of roleplayer they tend to be, give a sample of their work, and then list what kind of roleplay partner they're looking for somewhere... maybe in their profile? Or maybe a thread of Writing Samples could be set up somewhere?

And if you'd like, I can provide roleplay samples for each one of these categories. ^_^


But wouldn't this just encourage elitism and make everyone split up into their own camps? That's not good for anyone and hasn't really solved anything.
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« Reply #44 on: Feb 22nd, 2014, 3:02pm »

on Feb 21st, 2014, 9:52pm, Crimson wrote:
But wouldn't this just encourage elitism and make everyone split up into their own camps? That's not good for anyone and hasn't really solved anything.

How on earth would it encourage elitism? It's similar toa a ranking system without actually saying "This person is x times better than that person." I'm not saying that members should post terms like this in a manner that has them going, "HEY GUYS LOOK AT THESE 18 PARAGRAPHS I WROTE ONE TIME. I AM CLEARLY BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE HERE AND I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW IT!" And no, I don't think it would break everyone up into their own little sections. A lot of times, advanced writers and roleplayers are absolutely more than willing to roleplay with people who are at different levels in their writing for a whole lot of reasons. Could be that they're feeling lazy, could be that they're looking for something light and fun, could be whatever. However, there are times when it's nice to be able to find somebody who is at or around the same level of writing/roleplaying/style as yourself.

Take me, for example. I probably could be considered an advanced lit writer/roleplayer, but I very seldom ever engage in roleplays that are structured to be that way. Why? There's a dozen and a half reasons, but more or the less the main reason just tends to be that I can't find other people who want to roleplay in that manner. I also know that there are boatloads of people out there who have only been roleplaying for a short amount of time, and I remember what it was like for me when I first started roleplaying. Anyway, as such, I tend to roleplay and write at a semi-lit/lit level. Doesn't really bother me any, although I have had people tell me that I write too much on occasion. *shrug*

I've seen this method used in a lot of places before, and it seems to be pretty successful. It's just a nice, easy, and pretty straightforward way of searching for a new/different roleplay partner. The searcher can state what kind of thing they're looking for, and searchees can see it and go 'oh, I don't really want to be in a roleplay where the other person expects 2000+ character responses all the time' or 'this person has a pretty good idea developed but doesn't want to write a lot for whatever reason, but it still looks like fun, so I think I'll give it a shot' or 'hey, here's somebody who wants to write short and sweet and to the point! That's exactly what I'm looking for, too!'

Can you point out what, exactly, about this style of rating makes it elitist compared to other things you're thinking of?
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